Legislature(2019 - 2020)SENATE FINANCE 532

03/06/2020 09:00 AM Senate FINANCE

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09:49:33 AM Start
09:50:19 AM SB30
10:30:01 AM Adjourn
* first hearing in first committee of referral
+ teleconferenced
= bill was previously heard/scheduled
+= HB 139 AK PERM. FUND CORP. PROCUREMENT EXEMPTION TELECONFERENCED
<Bill Hearing Canceled>
+ SB 30 COLLEGE CREDIT FOR HIGH SCHOOL STUDENTS TELECONFERENCED
Heard & Held
-- Public Testimony --
+ Bills Previously Heard/Scheduled: TELECONFERENCED
+= HB 234 APPROP:SUPP; REAPPROP; CAP; AMEND; CBR TELECONFERENCED
Scheduled but Not Heard
                 SENATE FINANCE COMMITTEE                                                                                       
                       March 6, 2020                                                                                            
                         9:49 a.m.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
9:49:33 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CALL TO ORDER                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  von  Imhof  called the  Senate  Finance  Committee                                                                    
meeting to order at 9:49 a.m.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS PRESENT                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Senator Natasha von Imhof, Co-Chair                                                                                             
Senator Bert Stedman, Co-Chair                                                                                                  
Senator Click Bishop                                                                                                            
Senator Lyman Hoffman                                                                                                           
Senator Donny Olson                                                                                                             
Senator Bill Wielechowski                                                                                                       
Senator David Wilson                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS ABSENT                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
None                                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
ALSO PRESENT                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Senator Gary  Stevens, Sponsor;  Tim Lamkin,  Staff, Senator                                                                    
Gary Stevens; Senator Cathy Giessel.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
PRESENT VIA TELECONFERENCE                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Paul   Layer,  Vice   President,  Academics,   Students  and                                                                    
Research, University  of Alaska, Fairbanks;  Scott Macmanus,                                                                    
Alaska   Gateway  School   District,  Tok;   Karen  Gaborik,                                                                    
Superintendent, Fairbanks School  District, Fairbanks; Shawn                                                                    
Arnold, Alaska  Superintendents Association,  Valdez; Monica                                                                    
Goyette,  Superintendent,  Mat-Su Borough  School  District,                                                                    
Mat-Su;  Darrel Bowers,  Director, Idea  Homeschool Program,                                                                    
Galena.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
SUMMARY                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
SB 30     COLLEGE CREDIT FOR HIGH SCHOOL STUDENTS                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
          SB 30 was HEARD and HELD in committee for further                                                                     
          consideration.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
CSHB 234(FIN)                                                                                                                   
          APPROP:SUPP; REAPPROP; CAP; AMEND; CBR                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
          CSHB 234(FIN) was SCHEDULED but not HEARD.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
9:50:19 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Senator Olson acknowledged the Co-Chair Stedman's birthday.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Stedman joked  that he  was still  under 30-years-                                                                    
old.                                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Olson made  a joke  about wine  turning to  vinegar                                                                    
with age.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
SENATE BILL NO. 30                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
     "An Act establishing the middle college program for                                                                        
     public school students; and relating to the powers of                                                                      
     the University of Alaska."                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
9:51:47 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  GARY STEVENS,  SPONSOR, explained  the legislation.                                                                    
He  stated  that  the  effort  was  to  establish  a  state-                                                                    
sanctioned   collaboration  between   secondary  and   post-                                                                    
secondary schools, and encourage  students to complete their                                                                    
formal education. He  stated that there was  data to support                                                                    
the effort. He remarked that  the merits of the program were                                                                    
not  in  dispute,  and  most   people  could  agree  on  the                                                                    
program's success  in helping students complete  high school                                                                    
and begin higher education. He  pointed out that the program                                                                    
also  helped  to  avoid   remediation  when  students  begin                                                                    
college. He  stated that there  were many models  that could                                                                    
be  used,   and  the  challenge   was  to  find   a  program                                                                    
appropriate for  Alaska. He remarked  that there would  be a                                                                    
committee  substitute  that  would   put  the  onus  on  the                                                                    
University of  Alaska, rather than the  school districts. He                                                                    
wished his  children had  access to  a similar  program when                                                                    
they  were  attending college.  He  shared  that his  oldest                                                                    
daughter attended  a college that was  currently $50,000 per                                                                    
year, although  it was not  that cost when she  attended the                                                                    
school.  He  stated that  the  program  allowed students  to                                                                    
graduate from high  school with one or two  years of college                                                                    
credits. He  was grateful for  the opportunity to  enact the                                                                    
program.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  von Imhof  remarked  that she  had  served on  the                                                                    
school board and visited the  middle college in Eagle River,                                                                    
and felt that  it was a tremendous program.  She shared that                                                                    
the  students were  able to  become excited  about going  to                                                                    
college.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Senator Stevens agreed that it  was a success in many larger                                                                    
districts in  the state,  and the bill  would allow  for the                                                                    
University  to  administer  the program,  giving  access  to                                                                    
smaller and rural schools.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
9:55:31 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Senator Olson  remarked that  there was  an issue  about the                                                                    
awkwardness related  to social  development for  the younger                                                                    
graduates.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Stevens replied  that  high  school students  would                                                                    
often take  college courses with  adults. He felt  that they                                                                    
prepared  students  did  not have  a  problem  working  with                                                                    
adults.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  von  Imhof  wondered whether  the  middle  college                                                                    
students  were integrated  or  separate  from other  college                                                                    
students.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Senator Stevens  replied that the  program could  be either,                                                                    
depending on various factors.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Bishop wondered  whether  the bill  could apply  to                                                                    
those students who wanted to pursue a two-year certificate.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Senator Stevens replied in the affirmative.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
9:58:55 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
TIM  LAMKIN,  STAFF,  SENATOR GARY  STEVENS,  explained  the                                                                    
bill. He explained that the  bill was responsive to the data                                                                    
that showed  participants in middle college  and dual-credit                                                                    
programs  substantially  improved  student success  in  high                                                                    
school graduation rates and college entrance.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair   von  Imhof   queried   the   difference  in   the                                                                    
forthcoming committee substitute.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Lamkin  replied that  the main  difference was  that the                                                                    
onus would  be put  on the University,  because there  was a                                                                    
concern about who  would take the lead  in administering the                                                                    
program.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  von  Imhof wondered  whether  it  was a  mandatory                                                                    
program.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Lamkin  looked at page  2 of  the bill, which  read that                                                                    
"each  school district  shall enter  into an  agreement with                                                                    
the  University." He  stated that  the committee  substitute                                                                    
would  say   that  the  University   shall  enter   into  an                                                                    
agreement.  He  remarked  that  the  extent  of  the  school                                                                    
districts participation would vary widely.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  von  Imhof wondered  what  would  happen should  a                                                                    
school district decline participation.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Lamkin replied that the  agreement would show that there                                                                    
was no interest or no eligible students in that district.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  von  Imhof  wondered  whether  the  University  or                                                                    
school district would be required to carry further.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Lamkin replied  that  the  intent of  the  bill was  to                                                                    
provide the flexibility.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Gary  Stevens  furthered that  the  University  was                                                                    
supportive of  the bill because  the intent was  to increase                                                                    
enrollment in the University.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
10:04:47 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  von  Imhof  wondered   whether  the  Base  Student                                                                    
Allocation (BSA)  followed the  student and stayed  with the                                                                    
district, or would  it go to the University to  help pay for                                                                    
the classes.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Lamkin  replied that it  would vary. He deferred  to the                                                                    
University to speak to the specifics.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Senator Wielechowski  wondered whether the credits  could be                                                                    
transferrable  to  colleges  outside of  the  University  of                                                                    
Alaska system.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Lamkin  replied  that currently  it  was  intended  for                                                                    
credits  to  apply only  to  the  University of  Alaska.  He                                                                    
deferred to the University for more information.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair von Imhof felt that it depended on the university.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Stevens explained  that there  was no  control over                                                                    
outside  universities,  but  felt  that  the  University  of                                                                    
Alaska  had   solid  academic   standards  based   on  their                                                                    
accreditation.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Senator Bishop recalled that,  approximately 14 years prior,                                                                    
there  were conversations  about the  poor graduation  rates                                                                    
for  high  school. He  felt  that  the  bill would  help  to                                                                    
increase those graduation rates.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
10:08:18 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
PAUL   LAYER,  VICE   PRESIDENT,  ACADEMICS,   STUDENTS  AND                                                                    
RESEARCH,    UNIVERSITY    OF   ALASKA,    FAIRBANKS    (via                                                                    
teleconference), replied  to some of the  questions from the                                                                    
committee.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Wielechowski  wondered   whether  the  program  was                                                                    
available to students outside the public school system.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Layer   replied  that  some   of  the   districts  were                                                                    
homeschool  districts. He  furthered that  the bill  did not                                                                    
currently provide for some of the private schools.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair von Imhof OPENED public testimony.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
10:14:42 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
SCOTT  MACMANUS, ALASKA  GATEWAY SCHOOL  DISTRICT, TOK  (via                                                                    
teleconference), spoke in support of the legislation.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
10:17:35 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
KAREN  GABORIK, SUPERINTENDENT,  FAIRBANKS SCHOOL  DISTRICT,                                                                    
FAIRBANKS (via  teleconference), echoed the comments  of Mr.                                                                    
Layer.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
10:22:04 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
SHAWN  ARNOLD,  ALASKA SUPERINTENDENTS  ASSOCIATION,  VALDEZ                                                                    
(via teleconference), spoke in support of the bill.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
10:24:49 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MONICA  GOYETTE,   SUPERINTENDENT,  MAT-SU   BOROUGH  SCHOOL                                                                    
DISTRICT, MAT-SU  (via teleconference), spoke in  support of                                                                    
the legislation.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
10:28:04 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
DARREL  BOWERS, DIRECTOR,  IDEA  HOMESCHOOL PROGRAM,  GALENA                                                                    
(via teleconference),  felt that  the cost of  homeschool to                                                                    
the  state would  not  cover  the cost  of  the program.  He                                                                    
recommended that  the juniors and  seniors in  homeschool be                                                                    
funded at 100 percent of the BSA  to make up for some of the                                                                    
discrepancy in the allotment.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair von Imhof CLOSED public testimony.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  von   Imhof  discussed  the   following  meeting's                                                                    
agenda.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
SB  30  was   HEARD  and  HELD  in   committee  for  further                                                                    
consideration.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
ADJOURNMENT                                                                                                                   
10:30:01 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
The meeting was adjourned at 10:29 a.m.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                

Document Name Date/Time Subjects
SB030_MiddleColleges_Presentation_ACPE_29Jan2019.pdf SEDC 1/29/2019 9:00:00 AM
SFIN 3/6/2020 9:00:00 AM
SB 30
SB030_MiddleColleges_Presentation_MatSuSD_29Jan2019.pdf SEDC 1/29/2019 9:00:00 AM
SFIN 3/6/2020 9:00:00 AM
SB 30
SB030_MiddleColleges_Research_DualEnroll NCSL March 2008.pdf SEDC 1/29/2019 9:00:00 AM
SFIN 3/6/2020 9:00:00 AM
SB 30
SB030_MiddleColleges_Research_OregonRunningStart_Feb2016.pdf SEDC 1/29/2019 9:00:00 AM
SFIN 3/6/2020 9:00:00 AM
SB 30
SB030_MiddleColleges_Research_SeattleTimes_March2018.pdf SEDC 1/29/2019 9:00:00 AM
SFIN 3/6/2020 9:00:00 AM
SB 30
SB030_MiddleColleges_SponsorStatement_29Jan2019.pdf SEDC 1/29/2019 9:00:00 AM
SFIN 3/6/2020 9:00:00 AM
SB 30
SB030_MiddleColleges_Explanation of Changes From Version U to K _22March2019.pdf SFIN 3/6/2020 9:00:00 AM
SB 30
SB030_MiddleColleges_Sectional_VersionK.pdf SFIN 3/6/2020 9:00:00 AM
SB 30